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Jared Diamond on TED

By , About.com GuideNovember 2, 2008

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This week, TED features a talk by the great synthesizer Jared Diamond about the collapse of societies. Okay, I know, I know--every synthesizer to some extent compares apples to oranges. Societies aren't the same, reasons for collapse are not the same--but nevertheless, the fact that you can squeeze ideas from the past to inform the present, in particular concerning our climate change problems, is a searingly important issue today. Or it will be again once the election is over.

For those not up to the 18 minutes, here is Diamond's five-point framework for understanding the reasons for the collapse of any society. They sound pretty familiar to me:

  • Did people inadvertently destroy parts of the environment they relied on?
  • Was there climatic change that they did not respond to?
  • Did positive relationships with neighbors alter?
  • Did negative relationships with neighbors alter?
  • Were the people hindered from perceiving or dealing with their problems by their culture, politics, or economics?

"The big problems facing the world today are not at all things beyond our control. Our biggest threat is not an asteroid about to crash into us, something we can do nothing about. Instead, all of the major threats facing us today are problems entirely of our own making. And since we made the problems we can also solve the problems. It's entirely in our power to deal with these problems.

"...There's a lot that we can do. There's a lot that we don't understand that we need to understand. And there's a lot that we already do understand but aren't doing, that we need to be doing." Jared Diamond on Why Societies Collapse, Time: 18:21

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November 3, 2008 at 9:07 pm
(1) Eric says:

Diamond has an extraordinary breadth of vision. Although “synthesizers” get a bad rap occasionally, we need more people who can look across disciplinary boundaries to extract meaningful information.
And, I think his first book, Guns, Germs, and Steel is a masterpiece. His second, Collapse, is less impressive; especially his efforts to make Chaco fit the mold of his theory.

November 4, 2008 at 2:40 am
(2) Jo South Africa says:

Having recently returned from a most interesting trip to Easter Island I think that Diamond’s comments on the collapse of the various groups on Easter Island are most apt. I think that if they don’t carefully controll tourism the collapse could be repeated.

November 5, 2008 at 6:55 pm
(3) jh says:

I agree.I think Guns, Germs, Steel is very convincing and well analyzed. Collapse, I feel, was much more for shock value. But I think that Diamond is great at what he does and he is bringing up issues that we really need to address in today’s world.

jh
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November 9, 2008 at 10:14 pm
(4) J.L. Graham says:

Diamond is nothing more or less than genius. However, there are those that would speak differently. In the archaeology world, we sometimes believe that our opinions are fact. Facts and opinions are definitely two different aspects, even with Diamond.

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