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Weekly Chat from About Archaeology
Moderated by Pat Garrow and K. Kris Hirst
Transcript: March 4, 2001: Speaker Dr. Tom Dillehay (University of Kentucky).
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| Kris Hirst | What's your opinion about Dennis Stanford's theory about colonizing across the Atlantic? |
| nali | I was going to ask that same thing ADM.. the solutrean connection |
| Tom Dillehay | On Solutrean culture; Not yet convinced but willing to keep the door open a bit. I know the Spanish lithics; there are similarities but also many differences. |
| coop | How to explain the differences across such a long distance |
| coop | And the similarities.... |
| mohr | and it seems that differences are a more useful point of comparison than the similarities |
| coop | America and Spain |
| IreneH1 | Couldn't one expect similar but separate developments? |
| Pat Garrow | That would be quite a link. a possible eastern or southern origin for Clovis |
| Wayne | Dr Dillehay - have you seen anything coming out of the Gault site in TX which holds promise for a better understanding? like the engraved pebbles, ... |
| Tom Dillehay | Wayne: I have seen some things. The engraved stones are roughly similar to some Solutrean-like marked stones. I wish to say that Mike Collins at Gault, Denis Stanford and Bruce Bradley with the Solutrean model; I highly respect all these individuals; moreover they are friends. But, remember that Betty Meggers about 40 years ago thought that Jomon people came to the Americas to establish early culture. She based her work on a few similarities.. |
| Pat Garrow | Morphological similarities of early pottery as I recall |
| Tom Dillehay | Yes. |
| Pat Garrow | David Chase did a lot of the early work in Japan that documented the Jomon pottery. he still lives in the Atlanta area |
| coop | How about the Onion site engraved Clovis stone -- 40 lbs. |
| coop | Hester documented it |
| mohr | Onion...are they petroglyphs? |
| coop | It's like the Gault stones, only many times larger |
| Wayne | Yes, thanks. The analysis of all these artifacts is still in the early stages. |
| Weaver | Dr. Dillehay; If people across space and time are using similar resources, for similar tasks, wouldn't there be certain about of repetition of techniques and styles? Lithics especially constitute such a small percentage of a people's technology, don't we need something more ? |
| Tom Dillehay | I agree. But environmental differences and change resulting from time and space drift creates more differences, among other factors. We need much more than stone tools--like organics. |
| mohr | A Lazlo Szabo at the University of New Brunswick has published interesting work favourably comparing the Algonkian language with Finno-Uraic(?) I guess we all came from somewhere. |
| calico | Dr. Dillehay, how did you feel about the fact that widespread acceptance of your 12.5 ka 14C evidence came after the visit of some of the major pre-Clovis skeptics and not before? |
| Tom Dillehay | calico: I and others with the team felt good--thinking that too any years had passed. |
| skeptic1 | I was intrigued by the earlier suggestion that artifacts from MV and other unifacial industries in South America resemble Australian material. Are you suggesting that there is a genetic or culture-historical connection between these areas? If not, what is the potential homeland for the 20,000 BP immigrants? It could hardly be Siberia, where there are mainly microblade and biface industries throughout the Upper Paleolithic! (Sorry about the foul-up, folks) |
| Tom Dillehay | skeptic1: Not suggesting any formal linkage between S. Amer. and Australia. though some Aussies believe so. |
| calico | Dr. Dillehay, thank you for being in this chat room. Best of luck with your on-going research. If you ever find yourself in the Mojave Desert, stop in at the Calico Site. we have good artifacts and good dates |
| Wayne | Thanks all! |
| mohr | I'd just like to thank Tom for letting us pick his brains for a couple of hours. |
| calico | yes, thank you and good night |
| Pat Garrow | Looks like it is time to let Tom off the hook. Thank you do much for joining us for the first Articulations, Tom, and thanks for you patience. |
| Tom Dillehay | ArcheologyADM: thanks. |
| toad | this has been very interesting - thanks to all |
| coop | I'll be back, thanks all |
| calico | let's do this again some time |
| IreneH1 | Indeed this was quite interesting to a lay person like myself |
| mohr | Okay, who's for a beer? |
| Tom Dillehay | Thanks everyone for the good questions. |
| Kris Hirst | Thanks to you all for a tremendously successful evening, for the first Articulations. Next week, look for Anita Cohen-Williams, one of the pioneers of the electronic media in archaeology. |
| Kris Hirst | Count me in, you buying, Mohr? |
| mohr | Sure, we can bill it to the Smithsonian |
| Pat Garrow | I hope this is the first of many. Thanks again to Tom and all who attended |
| Tom Dillehay | Pat Garrow: thanks for the invitation. Bets of luck. |
| Pat Garrow | thanks Tom, and same to you as well |
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